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 ====== Weapon Limitations ====== ====== Weapon Limitations ======
-| 🚧 **These rules are a work-in-progress and have //not// been approved for implementation.** 🚧 | +These rules govern the quantity and quality of firepower available to the numerous [[guide:mecha_and_power_armors#mecha|mecha]], [[guide:aerospace_craft|small craft]], [[:starships|starships]], [[guide:ground_vehicles|vehicles]], and so forth within the Star Army setting.
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-These rules govern the quantity and quality of firepower available to the numerous [[guide:mecha_and_power_armors#mecha|mecha]], [[guide:aerospace_craft|small craft]], [[guide:starship_classes|starships]], vehicles, and so forth within the [[:about|Star Army]] setting.+
  
 ===== How much weaponry? ===== ===== How much weaponry? =====
-Usually, for infantrymen and power armor, this is self-explanatory... or at least easily ruled on. No one expects an infantryman or a power armor to dual-wield bazookas while carrying four spares on their back. For mecha and starships, however, it becomes more nebulous. The rule we offer is: //a maximum of 8 on-[[guide:damage_rating_v3#tiers|tier]] weapons (OTWs) and a max of 10 [[guide:damage_rating_v3#tiers|Tier]]-Equivalent Weapon Groups (TEWGs).//+Usually, for infantrymen and [[guide:mecha_and_power_armors#power_armors|power armor]], this is self-explanatory... or at least easily ruled on. No one expects an infantryman or a power armor to dual-wield bazookas while carrying four spares on their back. For larger platforms such as [[guide:mecha_and_power_armors#mecha|mecha]] and [[:starships|starships]], however, it becomes more nebulous. The rule we offer is: __a maximum of 8 On-[[guide:damage_rating_v3#tiers|Tier]] Weapons (OTWs) and a max of 2 Tier-Equivalent Weapon Groups (TEWGs).__
  
   * Getting a higher-tier weapon costs 2 weapons of the tier below.   * Getting a higher-tier weapon costs 2 weapons of the tier below.
  
   * Getting a lower-tier weapon costs 1/2 of a weapon from the tier above.   * Getting a lower-tier weapon costs 1/2 of a weapon from the tier above.
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 +  * OTWs can be converted normally into lower-tier weapons and higher-tier weapons.
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 +  * TEWGs can only be converted into lower-tier weapons and can only contain weapons below the tier of the weapon's host platform - more on this in the section below.
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 ==== What is a Tier-Equivalent Weapon Group? ==== ==== What is a Tier-Equivalent Weapon Group? ====
-A [[guide:damage_rating_v3#tiers|Tier]]-Equivalent Weapon Group (TEWG) is a group of lower-[[guide:damage_rating_v3#tiers|tier]] weapons whose combined "purpose" (read: damage output) is equal to their host platform's [[guide:damage_rating_v3#tiers|tier]]. Consider, for instance, a [[guide:damage_rating_v3_quick_reference#tiers|Tier]] 10 (Light Starship) vessel like the [[stararmy:starship_classes:yui_7_scout|Yui 7-class Scout]]. The following are just a handful of the combinations that would count as a single TEWG for the [[stararmy:starship_classes:yui_7_scout|Yui 7]]:+A [[guide:damage_rating_v3#tiers|Tier]]-Equivalent Weapon Group (TEWG) is a group of lower-tier weapons whose combined "purpose" (read: damage output) is equal to their host platform's tier. Consider, for instance, a Tier 10 (Light Starship) vessel like the [[stararmy:starship_classes:yui_7_scout|Yui 7-class Scout]]. The following are just a handful of the combinations that would count as a single TEWG for the Yui 7:
  
-  * 2 [[guide:damage_rating_v3#tiers|Tier]] 9 (Heavy Anti-Mecha) [[stararmy:type_31_secondary_anti-starship_turret|Type 31 Secondary Anti-Starship Turrets]] +  * 2 Tier 9 (Heavy Anti-Mecha) [[stararmy:weapons:type_31_secondary_anti-starship_turret|Type 31 Secondary Anti-Starship Turrets]] 
-  * 1 [[guide:damage_rating_v3#tiers|Tier]] 9 (Heavy Anti-Mecha) [[stararmy:type_31_secondary_anti-starship_turret|Type 31 Secondary Anti-Starship Turret]] + 4 [[guide:damage_rating_v3#tiers|Tier]] 7 (Light Anti-Mecha) [[stararmy:weapons:anti-fighter_turret_type_31|Type 31 Anti-Fighter Turrets]] +  * 1 Tier 9 (Heavy Anti-Mecha) Type 31 Secondary Anti-Starship Turret + 4 Tier 7 (Light Anti-Mecha) [[stararmy:weapons:anti-fighter_turret_type_31|Type 31 Anti-Fighter Turrets]] 
-  * 8 [[guide:damage_rating_v3#tiers|Tier]] 7 (Light Anti-Mecha) [[stararmy:weapons:anti-fighter_turret_type_31|Type 31 Anti-Fighter Turrets]] +  * 8 Tier 7 (Light Anti-Mecha) Type 31 Anti-Fighter Turrets 
-  * 6 [[guide:damage_rating_v3#tiers|Tier]] 7 (Light Anti-Mecha) [[stararmy:weapons:anti-fighter_turret_type_31|Type 31 Anti-Fighter Turrets]] + 8 [[guide:damage_rating_v3#tiers|Tier]] 5 (Medium Anti-Armor) [[stararmy:weapons:type_32_light_anti-armor_turret|Type 32 Light Anti-Armor Turrets]]+  * 6 Tier 7 (Light Anti-Mecha) Type 31 Anti-Fighter Turrets]] + 8 Tier 5 (Medium Anti-Armor) [[stararmy:weapons:type_32_medium_anti-armor_turret|Type 32 Light Anti-Armor Turrets]]
  
-A gun capable of firing [[guide:damage_rating_v3_quick_reference#tiers|Tier]] 10 (Light Anti-Starship) [[stararmy:weapons:ke-d7-w3200_mass_driver_gun#rounds_and_their_damage|300mm solid mass driver rounds]], however, would //not// be considered a TEWG for the [[stararmy:starship_classes:yui_7_scout|Yui 7-class Scout]]. It would instead be considered an OTW, due to the gun's ammunition being the same [[guide:damage_rating_v3_quick_reference#tiers|tier]] as the [[stararmy:starship_classes:yui_7_scout|Yui 7]].+A gun capable of firing Tier 10 (Light Anti-Starship) [[stararmy:weapons:ke-d7-w3200_mass_driver_gun#rounds_and_their_damage|300mm solid mass driver rounds]], however, would //not// be considered a TEWG for the Yui 7-class Scout. It would instead be considered an OTW, due to the gun's ammunition being the same tier as the Yui 7.
  
 ==== Notes ==== ==== Notes ====
 //The following are additional notes and errata for the rules described above.// //The following are additional notes and errata for the rules described above.//
  
-  * **[[guide:mecha_and_power_armors#mecha|Mecha]], [[guide:aerospace_craft|small craft]], [[guide:starship_classes|starships]], and vehicles with more weapons than the recommended maximum of weapons may not be approved due to being too overpowered.**+  * **[[guide:mecha_and_power_armors#mecha|Mecha]], [[guide:aerospace_craft|small craft]], [[:starships|starships]], and [[guide:ground_vehicles|vehicles]] with more weapons than the recommended maximum of weapons may not be approved due to being too overpowered.**
  
-  * For weapon systems that use ammunition with different [[guide:damage_rating_v3_quick_reference#tiers|tiers]]: the ammunition with the highest [[guide:damage_rating_v3_quick_reference#tiers|tier]] determines the overall [[guide:damage_rating_v3_quick_reference#tiers|tier]] of the weapon system.+  * For weapon systems that use ammunition with different [[guide:damage_rating_v3_quick_reference#tiers|tiers]]: the ammunition with the highest tier determines the overall tier of the weapon system.
  
-  * For weapon systems located in turrets (like the [[stararmy:type_31_secondary_anti-starship_turret|Type 31 Secondary Anti-Starship Turret]] or the [[stararmy:weapons:type_32_light_anti-armor_turret|Type 32 Light Anti-Armor Turret]]): each individual turret is counted as a single weapon system, regardless of how many barrels or weapon systems the turret itself contains. The turret's [[guide:damage_rating_v3_quick_reference#tiers|tier]] is determined by the highest-[[guide:damage_rating_v3_quick_reference#tiers|tiered]] weapon system equipped on or within the turret itself.+  * For weapon systems located in turrets (like the [[stararmy:weapons:type_31_secondary_anti-starship_turret|Type 31 Secondary Anti-Starship Turret]] or the [[stararmy:weapons:type_32_medium_anti-armor_turret|Type 32 Light Anti-Armor Turret]]): each individual turret is counted as a single weapon system, regardless of how many barrels or weapon systems the turret itself contains. The turret's tier is determined by the highest-tiered weapon system equipped on or within the turret itself.
  
   * For missile launchers (like the [[stararmy:small_craft:kuma_t8_multi-role_shuttle:ke-t8-w3101|Mini-Missile Launcher Pod]]): each "launcher" is counted as a single weapon system, regardless of how many missiles it can carry or launch simultaneously.    * For missile launchers (like the [[stararmy:small_craft:kuma_t8_multi-role_shuttle:ke-t8-w3101|Mini-Missile Launcher Pod]]): each "launcher" is counted as a single weapon system, regardless of how many missiles it can carry or launch simultaneously. 
  
-  * Bombs and torpedoes deployed from a small craft's hardpoints (like the [[stararmy:weapons:ke-z1_series_anti-starship_torpedoes|Anti-Starship Torpedoes]] launched from a [[stararmy:small_craft:ke-v9_nodachi_assault_fighter|"Nodachi" Assault Fighter's]] hardpoints or the [[stararmy:weapons:ke-z2|Strategic Aether Bombs]] dropped from a [[stararmy:small_craft:ke_v10_mamushi_multirole_fighter|"Mamushi" Multirole Starfighter's]] hardpoints) do not count towards the weapon limits described in the previous sections.+  * Bombs and torpedoes deployed from a small craft’s hardpoints (like the [[stararmy:weapons:ammunition:ke-z1_series_anti-starship_torpedoes|Anti-Starship Torpedoes]] launched from a [[stararmy:small_craft:ke-v9_nodachi_assault_fighter|"Nodachi" Assault Fighter's]] hardpoints or the [[stararmy:weapons:ammunition:ke-z2|Strategic Aether Bombs]] dropped from a [[stararmy:small_craft:ke_v10_mamushi_multirole_fighter|"Mamushi" Multirole Starfighter's]] hardpoints) do not count towards the weapon limits described in the previous sections.
  
 ===== Loadout Example: Giant Robot Dinosaur ===== ===== Loadout Example: Giant Robot Dinosaur =====
-Let's say that I'm an evil [[faction:mishhuvurthyar:advanced|Mishhuvurthyar]] villain recently freed from imprisonment on [[planet:yamatai#orbital|Luna Bianca]] who has decided to create an 80-meter-tall Giant Robot Dinosaur so that I can wreak chaos, havoc, destruction, and despair upon the unsuspecting residents of [[location:kyoto|Kyoto City]].+Let's say that I'm an evil [[species:mishhuvurthyar:advanced-type|Mishhuvurthyar]] villain recently freed from imprisonment on [[planet:yamatai#orbital|Luna Bianca]] who has decided to create an 80-meter-tall Giant Robot Dinosaur so that I can wreak chaos, havoc, destruction, and despair upon the unsuspecting residents of [[places:kyoto|Kyoto City]].
  
 Given that 80-meter-tall units fit under the "Light Starship" ([[guide:damage_rating_v3_quick_reference#tiers|Tier]] 10) category according to [[guide:damage_rating_v3#what_size_do_i_fit_in|this chart]], I can have: Given that 80-meter-tall units fit under the "Light Starship" ([[guide:damage_rating_v3_quick_reference#tiers|Tier]] 10) category according to [[guide:damage_rating_v3#what_size_do_i_fit_in|this chart]], I can have:
  
-  * 8 [[guide:damage_rating_v3_quick_reference#tiers|Tier]] 10 (Light Anti-Starship) Weapons+  * 8 Tier 10 (Light Anti-Starship) Weapons
  
-  * 2 [[guide:damage_rating_v3_quick_reference#tiers|Tier]]-Equivalent Weapon Groups+  * 2 Tier-Equivalent Weapon Groups
  
-Since I want to have two Laser Eyes of Destruction™, I take those 8 [[guide:damage_rating_v3_quick_reference#tiers|Tier]] 10 (Light Anti-Starship) weapons and convert them into...+Since I want to have two Laser Eyes of Destruction™, I take those 8 Tier 10 (Light Anti-Starship) weapons and convert them into...
  
-  * 4 [[guide:damage_rating_v3_quick_reference#tiers|Tier]] 11 (Medium Anti-Starship) weapons+  * 4 Tier 11 (Medium Anti-Starship) weapons
  
 ...and then convert those four weapons into: ...and then convert those four weapons into:
  
-  * 2 [[guide:damage_rating_v3_quick_reference#tiers|Tier]] 12 (Heavy Anti-Starship) weapons+  * 2 Tier 12 (Heavy Anti-Starship) weapons
  
 So, in the case of my giant robot dinosaur with laser eyes, it //can// kill with a glare. So, in the case of my giant robot dinosaur with laser eyes, it //can// kill with a glare.
  
-But wait, I wanted it to breathe fire too! And I want my fire breath to cause more damage than my laser eyes. Back to the drawing board: I divide 1 of those [[guide:damage_rating_v3_quick_reference#tiers|Tier]] 12 (Heavy Anti-Starship) weapons back into 2 [[guide:damage_rating_v3_quick_reference#tiers|Tier]] 11 (Medium Anti-Starship) weapons. Those two will actually be my laser eyes. The bigger one is my fire breath. So, now, my loadout looks like:+But wait, I wanted it to breathe fire too! And I want my fire breath to cause more damage than my laser eyes. Back to the drawing board: I divide 1 of those Tier 12 (Heavy Anti-Starship) weapons back into 2 Tier 11 (Medium Anti-Starship) weapons. Those two will actually be my laser eyes. The bigger one is my fire breath. So, now, my loadout looks like: 
 + 
 +  * 1 Tier 12 (Heavy Anti-Starship) Plasma Flamethrower of Doom™ 
 +  * 2 Tier 11 (Medium Anti-Starship) Eyes of Destruction™
  
-  * 1 [[guide:damage_rating_v3_quick_reference#tiers|Tier]] 12 (Heavy Anti-Starship) Plasma Flamethrower of Doom™ +Then I remember that I’ve forgotten about the 2 Tier-Equivalent Weapon Groups. Back to the drawing board one more time: I take those 2 Tier-Equivalent Weapon Groups and - since they're each "worth" a Tier 10 (Light Anti-Starship) weapon - split them into:
-  * 2 [[guide:damage_rating_v3_quick_reference#tiers|Tier]] 11 (Medium Anti-Starship) Eyes of Destruction™+
  
-Then I remember that I’ve forgotten about the 2 [[guide:damage_rating_v3_quick_reference#tiers|Tier]]-Equivalent Weapon Groups. Back to the drawing board one more time: I take those 2 [[guide:damage_rating_v3_quick_reference#tiers|Tier]]-Equivalent Weapon Groups and - since they're each "worth" a [[guide:damage_rating_v3_quick_reference#tiers|Tier]] 10 (Light Anti-Starship) weapon - split them into:+  * 4 Tier 9 (Heavy Anti-Mecha) Spike Launchers of Devastation™
  
-  * 4 [[guide:damage_rating_v3_quick_reference#tiers|Tier]] 9 (Heavy Anti-Mecha) Spike Launchers of Devastation™+These launchers, located on the flanks of my Giant Robot Dinosaur, will be my point-defense against any pesky fighter jets the inhabitants of Kyoto City send to fight me. So, now my loadout looks like this...
  
-These launchers, located on the flanks of my Giant Robot Dinosaur, will be my point-defense against any pesky fighter jets the inhabitants of [[location:kyoto|Kyoto City]] send to fight me. So, now my loadout looks like this...+  * On-Tier Weapons: 
 +    * 1 Tier 12 (Heavy Anti-Starship) Plasma Flamethrower of Doom™ 
 +    * 2 Tier 11 (Medium Anti-Starship) Eyes of Destruction™
  
-  * On-[[guide:damage_rating_v3_quick_reference#tiers|Tier]] Weapons: +  * Tier-Equivalent Weapon Groups 
-    * 1 [[guide:damage_rating_v3_quick_reference#tiers|Tier]] 12 (Heavy Anti-Starship) Plasma Flamethrower of Doom™ +    * 4 Tier 9 (Heavy Anti-Mecha) Spike Launchers of Devastation™
-    * 2 [[guide:damage_rating_v3_quick_reference#tiers|Tier]] 11 (Medium Anti-Starship) Eyes of Destruction™+
  
-  * [[guide:damage_rating_v3_quick_reference#tiers|Tier]]-Equivalent Weapon Groups +...and there we go. My Godzilla impersonator is armed and ready to smash, stomp, burn, rip, and tear Kyoto City into rubble! MUAHAHAHAHA!
-    * 4 [[guide:damage_rating_v3_quick_reference#tiers|Tier]] 9 (Heavy Anti-Mecha) Spike Launchers of Devastation™+
  
-...and there we go. My Godzilla impersonator is armed and ready to smash, stomp, burn, rip, and tear [[location:kyoto|Kyoto City]] into rubble! MUAHAHAHAHA!+===== Resources ===== 
 +[[https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Gi9XbUuWBXso6kHrNoR9G9gr2EsYAdxz8gdDebFYF4Y/edit|Here]] is a link to an unofficial Weapon Limitations calculator made by [[members:frostjaeger]].

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